Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. O magnam vim ingenii causamque iustam, cur nova existeret disciplina! Perge porro. Collatio igitur ista te nihil iuvat. Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora. Itaque mihi non satis videmini considerare quod iter sit naturae quaeque progressio.

Quid, si reviviscant Platonis illi et deinceps qui eorum auditores fuerunt, et tecum ita loquantur? Quae cum dixisset paulumque institisset, Quid est? Sint modo partes vitae beatae. Quod si ita se habeat, non possit beatam praestare vitam sapientia. Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius. Atqui iste locus est, Piso, tibi etiam atque etiam confirmandus, inquam;

Hic quoque suus est de summoque bono dissentiens dici vere Peripateticus non potest. Quis suae urbis conservatorem Codrum, quis Erechthei filias non maxime laudat? Isto modo ne improbos quidem, si essent boni viri. Quid autem habent admirationis, cum prope accesseris? Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Atqui reperies, inquit, in hoc quidem pertinacem; Neque enim civitas in seditione beata esse potest nec in discordia dominorum domus; Quod vestri quidem vel optime disputant, nihil opus esse eum, qui philosophus futurus sit, scire litteras.

Reguli reiciendam; Ita prorsus, inquam; Suam denique cuique naturam esse ad vivendum ducem. Illum mallem levares, quo optimum atque humanissimum virum, Cn.

De hominibus dici non necesse est. Sit ista in Graecorum levitate perversitas, qui maledictis insectantur eos, a quibus de veritate dissentiunt. Hoc est dicere: Non reprehenderem asotos, si non essent asoti. Quid enim necesse est, tamquam meretricem in matronarum coetum, sic voluptatem in virtutum concilium adducere? Teneo, inquit, finem illi videri nihil dolere. Te ipsum, dignissimum maioribus tuis, voluptasne induxit, ut adolescentulus eriperes P. An tu me de L. Nihil acciderat ei, quod nollet,

nisi quod anulum, quo delectabatur, in mari abiecerat. Claudii libidini, qui tum erat summo ne imperio, dederetur. Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi; Ex quo illud efficitur, qui bene cenent omnis libenter cenare, qui libenter, non continuo bene.

Hoc est non modo cor non habere, sed ne palatum quidem. Quid igitur, inquit, eos responsuros putas? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Est enim effectrix multarum et magnarum voluptatum. Quod ea non occurrentia fingunt, vincunt Aristonem; Si id dicis, vicimus. Tubulum fuisse, qua illum, cuius is condemnatus est rogatione, P.

Si mala non sunt, iacet omnis ratio Peripateticorum. Qui autem esse poteris, nisi te amor ipse ceperit? Sed tamen intellego quid velit. Non quaero, quid dicat, sed quid convenienter possit rationi et sententiae suae dicere. Poterat autem inpune;

Et si turpitudinem fugimus in statu et motu corporis, quid est cur pulchritudinem non sequamur? Eademne, quae restincta siti? Tu autem, si tibi illa probabantur, cur non propriis verbis ea tenebas? Nemo nostrum istius generis asotos iucunde putat vivere. Quae fere omnia appellantur uno ingenii nomine, easque virtutes qui habent, ingeniosi vocantur. Virtutis, magnitudinis animi, patientiae, fortitudinis fomentis dolor mitigari solet. Quem Tiberina descensio festo illo die tanto gaudio affecit, quanto L. Sed eum qui audiebant, quoad poterant, defendebant sententiam suam.

Non risu potius quam oratione eiciendum? Suam denique cuique naturam esse ad vivendum ducem. Quippe: habes enim a rhetoribus; Quod quidem iam fit etiam in Academia. Illa tamen simplicia, vestra versuta.

Quam si explicavisset, non tam haesitaret. Sed vobis voluptatum perceptarum recordatio vitam beatam facit, et quidem corpore perceptarum. Ergo, si semel tristior effectus est, hilara vita amissa est? Bonum valitudo: miser morbus. Vestri haec verecundius, illi fortasse constantius. Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla

expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Ut necesse sit omnium rerum, quae natura vigeant, similem esse finem, non eundem.

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