Mihi vero, inquit, placet agi subtilius et, ut ipse dixisti, pressius. Claudii libidini, qui tum erat summo ne imperio, dederetur. Sin te auctoritas commovebat, nobisne omnibus et Platoni ipsi nescio quem illum anteponebas?

Nam bonum ex quo appellatum sit, nescio, praepositum ex eo credo, quod praeponatur aliis. Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Quis istud possit, inquit, negare? Etenim semper illud extra est, quod arte comprehenditur. Quae diligentissime contra Aristonem dicuntur a Chryippo. Bork

Illa sunt similia: hebes acies est cuipiam oculorum, corpore alius senescit; Nemo nostrum istius generis asotos iucunde putat vivere. Quod autem satis est, eo quicquid accessit, nimium est; Ego vero volo in virtute vim esse quam maximam; Conferam tecum, quam cuique verso rem subicias; Omnis enim est natura diligens sui. Hunc ipsum Zenonis aiunt esse finem declarantem illud, quod a te dictum est, convenienter naturae vivere. Illud quaero, quid ei, qui in voluptate summum bonum ponat, consentaneum sit dicere.

Ergo illi intellegunt quid Epicurus dicat, ego non intellego? Haec para/doca illi, nos admirabilia dicamus. Collatio igitur ista te nihil iuvat. Mihi, inquam, qui te id ipsum rogavi? Non est igitur voluptas bonum. Bork Portenta haec esse dicit, neque ea ratione ullo modo posse vivi;

Sint modo partes vitae beatae. Res tota, Torquate, non doctorum hominum, velle post mortem epulis celebrari memoriam sui nominis. Nam si propter voluptatem, quae est ista laus, quae possit e macello peti? Vide igitur ne non debeas verbis nostris uti, sententiis tuis. Oculorum, inquit Plato, est in nobis sensus acerrimus, quibus sapientiam non cernimus. Tenesne igitur, inquam, Hieronymus Rhodius quid dicat esse summum bonum, quo putet omnia referri oportere?

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poterunt, nisi ipsae per se expetuntur. Itaque eos id agere, ut a se dolores, morbos, debilitates repellant. Cum audissem Antiochum, Brute, ut solebam, cum M. At iam decimum annum in spelunca iacet.

Mihi quidem Antiochum, quem audis, satis belle videris attendere. Restincta enim sitis stabilitatem voluptatis habet, inquit, illa autem voluptas ipsius restinctionis in motu est. Itaque hic ipse iam pridem est reiectus; Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Si enim non fuit eorum iudicii, nihilo magis hoc non addito illud est iudicatum-. Vidit Homerus probari fabulam non posse, si cantiunculis tantus irretitus vir teneretur;

Multoque hoc melius nos veriusque quam Stoici. Nec vero hoc oratione solum, sed multo magis vita et factis et moribus comprobavit. Nihil minus, contraque illa hereditate dives ob eamque rem laetus. Sed ad haec, nisi molestum est, habeo quae velim. Age sane, inquam. Potius inflammat, ut coercendi magis quam dedocendi esse videantur. Sed quanta sit alias, nunc tantum possitne esse tanta.

Causa autem fuit huc veniendi ut quosdam hinc libros promerem. Sed haec quidem liberius ab eo dicuntur et saepius. Idem etiam dolorem saepe perpetiuntur, ne, si id non faciant, incidant in maiorem. Quamquam tu hanc copiosiorem etiam soles dicere. Dicet pro me ipsa virtus nec dubitabit isti vestro beato M.

Si alia sentit, inquam, alia loquitur, numquam intellegam quid sentiat; Collige omnia, quae soletis: Praesidium amicorum. Oculorum, inquit Plato, est in nobis sensus acerrimus, quibus sapientiam non cernimus. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Maximus dolor, inquit, brevis est. Quid, de quo nulla dissensio est?

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